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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 12:30:36

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if people here would mind observing the skies where they live and posting here whenever they get chemtrailed. If we got enough responses we could work out the most affected areas, and might even find a pattern in the spraying.

It's a serious thing and if you have it over your houses and seen multiple trails spreading out, then find your sky completely hazy later that evening it not by coincidence. (video I took of this happening above my house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNRVWK7ZV8g)

The sky is noticably much less blue days after the spraying than it should be, which suggests it's really screwing up the atmosphere and the air we're having to breathe.

Thanks for reading and I hope some of you will consider contributing a little bit of your time and keeping watch of the skies with me!

You might even see a crazy chemical rainbow effect in a cloud like I did, Trust me this is not a rare occurance either! I have seen them three times!!!

For those who don't know or haven't seen anything about chemtrails before there is a great deal of footage filmed chemtrails and the chembow phenomena on youtube from all over the world. I have also favourited a lot of chemtrail related videos on my youtube channel, there is other stuff in there too but I don't have many fav's so should be easy to find them.

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But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:01:21

SoulOnIce

Good idea!

OK,this morning I observed a number of aircraft criss-crossing North Wales,one of those was I believe a military refueller ,a stratotanker.

I got the binocs on it and the crap pouring out the back was incredible.

The sky is now littered with this residue,and it spreads.

It's a bit of a pisser for me too as I intend to observe Mars later tonight if clear(ha!) with my 12" reflector.

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Noris

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:20:23

Its absolute sky saturation of chemtrails today. I've started taking vitamin D3 which is what the body and all living things crave from our sunlight is been purposely blocked by the those f*cking planes.

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:23:27

Great idea soul on ice, i'm still educating myself regarding chem trails, you sound like you know more than I, one question I have is could different clouds, weather conditions etc effect how long the con trails stay in the atmosphere or because con trails from what iv read are mainly water vapour do they disappear instantly regardless of the type of weather, clouds and so on, I just thought we might be getting mixed up with chem trails and con trails, how exactly do you define a chem trail? What are the differences in characteristics?

Edited by - danielinthebed on 12/09/2009 14:25:16

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:28:42

In addition to my last comment, I just watched a jet liner fly across and give off a con trail, the trail clearly disappeared within seconds of the plane moving on.

Edited by - danielinthebed on 12/09/2009 14:29:36

jamesdallimore

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:29:36

They talk about this openly and give thier game away constantly on the discovery channel.
AND all this cloud seeding is deadly and could wipe out our plannet and us !
Seen many here in gloucestershire but more so in nearby herefordshire , nice inffected cider , YUM!!

Edited by - jamesdallimore on 12/09/2009 14:34:56

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:31:32

Great, remember cloud seeding and chem-trailing are two different biological warfare techniques.

Chem-trail: chemicals or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public

Cloud Seeding: form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei

Edited by - danielinthebed on 12/09/2009 14:34:09

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:42:53

Daniel

I'm new to this topic too,but contrails do dissipate,the alleged chemtrails do not they spread out and form a haze.

I have made this comparison when looking at them.Passenger liners seem to not leave this residue behind,but the aircraft I observed earlier today was military and I was quite shocked to see how much effluent it emitted.

I have not ruled out however,that aviation fuel is being mixed with lower grade fuel causing this,as an energy saving measure.

Either way I imagine it is not healthy to have this new crap in our air,whatever the reason.

Aviation fuel is very light and burns with less residue I know that,perhaps the are introducing a denser hydrocarbon in the mix to save money.

Ethanol would fit this category.or even chip-fat (I kid you not).

anyone seen Richard Branson at their local chippy lately?

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:50:23

Yea but have you ever experianced jet liners leaving trails which stay longer than a few seconds, maybe some planes lack technology to convert to water vapour and therefore there trails stay longer.

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:53:17

Good idea, the ground crew with the Avalon (Afalon) site has been doing the same.
I noticed the sky over Penfro south Cymru was littered with a checkered board around noon today. Now it has fanned out like super thin clouds.

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 16:33:56

Beautiful clear blue sky near Stanstead airport. I keep my eye on the chemtrails daily so it wont be a problem to update. (Must be our day off?!)

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Edited by - under no illusion on 12/09/2009 16:34:36

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 17:24:14

Bryn

That's interesting to note,when they had finished here in North Cymru,they headed your way.

The timing would have been about right,especially for the tanker I saw.

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 17:45:31

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Originally posted by DoctorStrangeglow

Bryn

That's interesting to note,when they had finished here in North Cymru,they headed your way.

The timing would have been about right,especially for the tanker I saw.

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The plot thickens sir, that may explain why two trails where slightly off set to all the others. Next stop Cornwall?
The wind was blowing from the east so in theory it should get blown out to sea or Ireland? But then again, it did seem like it was anchored?

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 18:55:37

Hello everyone!

Thanks for all contributing all the replies, and for watching the sky today and not sky TV! (unless it was Edge of course

) I'm sure the atmosphere will appreciate our efforts haha

I had to get off the TV for a while this afternoon(which I use as also use a pc screen so thats why I hadn't checked back until now)

To answer James and Dans questions I'm absolutely 100% sure that what I see are not regular contrails. They appear early in the morning sometimes and you'll only get a couple which isn't too bad. Other days (like Sunday 23rd August) they will start at midday or very early afternoon, and your sky will be raped for lack of a nicer way of putting it.

The chemtrails last for hours and hours, You can literally watch them spread all across the sky until it's like fog. After a days heavy spraying (last sunday which I still haven't made the video of) the chem clouds persisted in the sky all day, and the moon was giving off an unusually colourful glow from behind them that night too.

The chemtrails are a form of cloud seeding, but they can be adapted to spray pretty much anything if they wanted to. It has been suggested chemtrails have killed off the honey bee (although this is one of many theories I have heard on their demise. Its the best and almost a perfect way of causing a food shortage to be honest. The free contributions honeybees make towards pollination could never be underestimated (Einstein said if the honeybee died everything on the planet would be dead in 4 years). Nowerdays we would have a few who would get artifically pollinated food, but imagine the consequences it was have on most people across the world..

I wouldn't be too suprised if it was correct however, because after a summer of spraying my mum found about 30 dead bees all together in our shed! (they had all been going in and out of there with no problems happily, until the spraying and they all died)

Some scientists have also suggested the rise of diseases in trees in britain could be related to the quality of our air but again it correlates with the spraying.

I have read that the planet is receiving 20% less sunlight than it was two decades ago (global dimming), and with this we are still supposedly warming at the rate we are. I would infact say if there if there is increased warming on earth (the whole solar system is warming, with some alarming consequences) it would be due to these artificial clouds causing a heat blanket effect (90% of the greenhouse effect is caused by water vapour IE clouds alone).

Doc and Bryn, I think you are correct about the correlations. It seems it was a good idea to make this topic

It gets you very angry when you actually see it because it's clearly not natural and it cannot be good for us or anything for that matter.

I live directly on the flight path and my experiences of a lovely clear sky fits in perfect with what under no illusion was saying. Generally speaking the flights we get crossing above us here are from stansted. I have been watching some of the planes and hearing flights going over all day (they do not leave ANY trails at all because they fly so low for the most part, but at higher levels the contrails disappear so quick you can watch them go in about 20 seconds or less).

I agree that they tend to look anchored in the sky and I assume that is their purpose, either to block the sun, or interfere with the incoming natural weather patterns. Has anybody experienced a really REALLY dry summer? I get the feeling it's to drive home the fact we've been told about food shortages and droughts... I can count the amount of times it's rained here on 1 hand literally. The grass is dying and the ground is splitting into chunks. Any local ponds are bone dry. I'm sure this is on purpose. I have watched the chemtrails destroy rain clouds before I started filming (not joking).

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But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass

Edited by - Soul on Ice on 12/09/2009 19:06:09

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 20:57:03

Soul on Ice....Your part of the UK is a totally different world too mine if your grass is parched. All it has done down here is rain, blow and more rain. Just like a warmer version of winter. Infact I have even had to put the heating on three times. Brrrr

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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 21:11:09

Hi Bryn,

Sounds nice! I'd actually go for a bit of that at the moment

Yeah I hear theres quite a bit of rain in Wales, I'll trade you for some sun and chemtrails

It has been a very dry summer even for here (East Anglia), getting annoyed with it to be honest, I want my real clouds back!

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But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass

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Posted - 13/09/2009 : 09:53:26

East Anglia:
I can't see any blue sky at the moment but it appears to be natural cloud. Who knows what's above it though?

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Posted - 13/09/2009 : 10:42:17

Morning report for North Wales.....

Clear skies a bit of patchy cirrus (natural),several passenger liners have gone over at altitude,only one leaving a significant marker.

There was a heavy dew last night,getting a bit autumnal here now.

My gut feeling is as I mentioned before,mixing aviation fuel with heavier stuff to save money,would explain the different trails left by passenger aircraft,unless anyone relly wishes to believe that those commercial planes are being pressed into service to deliberately seed the atmosphere,which I would find dubious,possible but unlikely.

It's possible that atmospherics play a big part in this,and the heavier residue takes longer to dissipate.

Would like to se some tests done with varying fuel mixtures.this would go some way to establishing what is actually causing them.

Military aircraft are a different kettle,potentially.Have not seen any yet today.

Either way,if low-grade fuel is the cause,it raises more government policy paradoxes.

They don't appear to care about emissions from aircraft then,but if you have a smelly exhaust on you car,it will fail it's MOT.

They are obsessed about people smoking in public on health grounds,but do not care about this.

Just more ill-thought out incinsistent nanny-nonsense.

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Posted - 13/09/2009 : 11:16:05

Sky to the east and above Penfro ~~south~~ West Cymru is blue, but to the west over Marloes & Dale & heading out to sea is checkered board in the direction of Cornwall and Antarctica. lol

Nearest airport is Caerdydd (cardiff) which is about 80-ish crow miles away. Public air traffic over this county is very quiet except the tiny bumble bee ones

, but there are three (I know of) MOD bases, the yanks use Brawdy (main) and Manorbier as their bases and Castlemartin is mainly UK troops.
As I type the sound of big heavy slow engines in the distance

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Posted - 13/09/2009 : 11:18:36

Hello

No trails here from what I can see either, I also think todays cloud is natural, just normal stratus as theres no rain to go with it.

There are normal variations in contrails yes and I agree it's ok for big companies (armed with carbon credits) to pollute but not anybody else. You're right it needs investigating, but as you said the real trails are a totally different issue.

edit -

Hello Bryn. I Was posting at the same time you were. I also have airbases fairly near as there are quite a few in Suffolk and Norfolk. Lakenheath is the biggest, not sure which ones are still active in suffolk now I would have to look that up.

"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass

Edited by - Soul on Ice on 13/09/2009 11:22:16