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skywalker
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 Posted - 17/10/2009 : 00:09:50
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yeh right this is hawkeye, do you get the feeling theres more to this than meets the eye.
i would allso like to add that when i logged on to photobucket i saw this addy.....
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nice one 
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waya
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 13:36:02
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| I have noticed over the past month or so, trails every day, where I live. Also, lots of people getting respiratory infections that just will not go, lasting weeks. Maybe a connection here? |
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Bryn ap Gwilym
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 17:18:41
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A beautiful day here in Penfro, Cymru. NOT one single plane all day until now.
Plane's coming from the south. I don't know if Cornwall has got a airport, but the next stop is Antarctica.
Strange cloud formation coming from the west/north west.
Isn't there any plane anoraks who can confirm what type of aircraft that is making these trails, and where is the base?
edit: east west.
Inscription on - The Washington Monument
Fy iaith, fy ngwlad, fy nghenedl Cymru — Cymru am byth (My language, my land, my nation of Wales — Wales for ever)
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openmind
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 17:48:52
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I had flu, the 2nd time this year and I never hardly get ill in years! the 2nd dose of flu couple of weeks back and I still have a cough 3 weeks on, a neighbout over the road has the same, a cough lasting weeks from flu. I have to say I am not feeling as well as could be, not ill but could be better, Those poxy chemtrails are poison I swear!
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Soul on Ice
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 19:35:57
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Hello,
Holy crap skywalker that things not a plane it looks more like a mobile radar post! I'm pretty sure that's what the bit on top is anyway.. Definitely a lot more functions than your standard bit of kit.
What are those things on the wings too? there are a couple on each side and they look tilted slightly upwards, could those be sprayers? I read about a DARPA project related to chemtrails recently. Something called smart dust. These pieces of smart dust are sprayed and then picked up by RADAR to create a realtime 3d map of the battlefield. It's gonna be just like call of duty! Minimap in the top left hand corner of your vision and all the enemies on radar! Sounds like sci-fi again but everything does now!
Waya, I think the respiritory problems are definitely worsened by the trails, having watched them intensively for the past couple of months or so I have a very good eye for them and know 100% the huge persistant trails fall from the sky and form dirty grey smokey looking clouds at an incredibly low altitude which then pollutes the air we breathe (I can see the very low commercial flights going right through them so). The low commercial flights leave absolutely no trails, the mid range ones can either act normally with disappearing contrails or they can be persistant.
Thanks for keeping watch so well Bryn and everyone else who has, I appreciate the input from everybody on this one and the of us who are aware the easier it may be to get a solution for it. We had a clear day here a few days ago now but since it's been heavy trailing again. It's weird because the days have been pretty covered and overcast with grey clouds always with straight top like fronts, there's no rain with them and when they go away there is ALWAYs chemtrails above them. What did the strange cloud formation look like Bryn?
I think you're right with them being poisonous openmind! Whether it's intentional or not is still debatable (although it wouldn't suprise me if it was!), but it is fact that the chemicals used in the trails even if for weather modification purposes alone would have detrimental health effects on people underneath the spraying operations. My brother and his son have been ill for about the past month constantly, perfectly correllating to the spraying. I've not been well also and find myself constantly sneezing and rubbing my eyes, it's no wonder the chemists make a killing from selling cough mixtures and hayfever remedies, with all this sh*t hovering above us eventually to be breathed in!!
I don't know how much you know or have heard about chemtrails but I would highly recommend listening to Rosalind Peterson ( who's website is http://californiaskywatch.com/) on that podcast interview man posted, and watching the documentary "Don't talk about the weather" on youtube or google video 
"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass |
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Bryn ap Gwilym
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Posted - 18/10/2009 : 00:43:58
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Could this be the reason behind the trails?
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/192884-Connecting-the-Dots-Mass-depopulation-on-its-way-and-the-Secret-Team-s-management-of-the-world
edit: Soul on Ice
The formation looked like one huge long line. On one side was clear and the other side looked like hazy fish bones as far as my eye could see.
May I add that the straight line had puffs or rings/disks right along it, as if being switched on and off, but there was no breaks in the line. Puff, puff, puff
Inscription on - The Washington Monument
Fy iaith, fy ngwlad, fy nghenedl Cymru — Cymru am byth (My language, my land, my nation of Wales — Wales for ever)
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Soul on Ice
United Kingdom
1020 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 10:20:11
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Cheers for the link Bryn! That cloud sounds like it could have been a seeded cloud or highly spread out chemtrail. I need to get on with my understanding the weather course so I have both sets of knowledge to work from. I definitely know whats fake and what isn't now but if I have some sort of qualification too that might help
"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass |
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skywalker
1254 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 17:13:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Evoke
Skywalker
You see this one flying in circles every now and again, you'll have seen it.
http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/051_2032w.jpg
no i havn't seen that one but thats because its been a very cloudy year where i live, that plane looks like the early warning military radar planes that are in the air 24/7.
i honestly think that chemtrails are causing the global warming illusion and i doubt its anything more sinister than that allthough the end game will be, floods famine and insect destruction which will lead to more famine and wider spread, the more i look the more its looking obvious.
Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey
and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O'Rourke
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ascap29
643 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 22:31:50
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Aren't 'The doughnuts on a rope' trails meant to be caused py pulse technology on cutting edge and supposedly highly secret stealth aircraft?
Lieutenant Worf: If winning is not important, then, Commander - why keep score?
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skywalker
1254 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 23:02:55
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who's post are you refering to ascap ?
Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey
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-P.J. O'Rourke
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Bryn ap Gwilym
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Posted - 18/10/2009 : 23:07:58
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quote:
Originally posted by ascap29
Aren't 'The doughnuts on a rope' trails meant to be caused py pulse technology on cutting edge and supposedly highly secret stealth aircraft?
Lieutenant Worf: If winning is not important, then, Commander - why keep score?
Thank you.
I couldn't think what they were called for the life of me. All I could think of was a steam train, puff, puff, puff
Inscription on - The Washington Monument
Fy iaith, fy ngwlad, fy nghenedl Cymru — Cymru am byth (My language, my land, my nation of Wales — Wales for ever)
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skywalker
1254 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 23:43:59
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Donut on a Rope Contrails
suggests flight of classified aircraft.
Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey
and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O'Rourke
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Bryn ap Gwilym
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 00:03:02
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Thats the puff, puff, puff I seen.
Inscription on - The Washington Monument
Fy iaith, fy ngwlad, fy nghenedl Cymru — Cymru am byth (My language, my land, my nation of Wales — Wales for ever)
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Soul on Ice
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 10:47:16
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Hi everyone,
Good pic Evoke, thanks for posting it. I see grey low flying planes like that all the time, I'm not sure if it's the exact same type, but I did wonder what the grey planes were all about so perhaps it's those or something similar I'm seeing.
Another observation is that I notice them fly past a huge amount on the days of very heavy spraying, and the clouds seem to change awfully fast... I think perhaps it is something to do with the lower trailless planes too, they could be using radar signals to modify the particles in the clouds or something?
I've seen a few "doughnuts on a rope" chems but usually they just seem drip from one side downwards. Yesterday I went and got some pictures and film of a really bad set of chemtrails attacking a weather front out to sea and off in the direction of Harwich - walton on the naize way. In the evening the muck continued rolling across the sky, I got some footage of that but then my batteries died. It costs me a fortune because I have to buy those ultra lithium batteries. My camera doesn't even acknowledge theres any power in the cheap ones at all!
I watch constant dark clouds created in the evening by a mix of dirt and pollution, they are leftovers from normal clouds that get chemtrailed, it all gets mixed up and disintegrates the regular cumulus clouds leaving you with dirty chemical muck.
edit - I could have been clearer with saying they seemed to drip down, it kinda looks like the doughnuts side on, not hung on the rope but hanging just underneath it.
"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass |
Edited by - Soul on Ice on 19/10/2009 11:50:53 |
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skywalker
1254 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2009 : 16:12:17
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spotted this on david ickes site and i'm convinced it belongs in this chemtrail post because i think chemtrails are causing the global warming illusion think i said that before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHMOEVRysWE&feature=player_embedded
Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey
and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O'Rourke
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Soul on Ice
United Kingdom
1020 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2009 : 17:57:32
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Hello skywalker,
Good video thanks for the link, I'm of the same opinion and am getting bloody annoyed with it all to be honest. I can't believe people still disbelieve the artificiality of chemtrails. If theres any more confirmation needed by anyone here just watch this video by tankerenemy (makes excellent videos and also has a blog too I think)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTYLr8V3eXI
They trails are so low you can smell them sometimes and there are still those prepared to blindly accept them as ice. It makes me cringe that people could think it's a good idea to screw the earth like this all the while fobbing of a geniunely innocent and unsuspecting public... I mean that's harsh... Even for psychopaths lol.
"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
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21st Sentry
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 19:54:03
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I'm certainly not necessarily questioning that something seriously underhand is going on related to these alleged chemtrails.
However, unless I have missed it, I've never read from anyone in the various posts and/or various Web links on this subject whether its been ascertained that the skies above near where these alleged chemtrails have been made, are or aren't in or near a main aircraft flight path corridor?
And secondly, I have never read in the various posts from the chemtrial protagonists that the relevant ATC for the area in question where these aircraft have been observed allegedly making the chemtrails, have been contacted to try and find out who they belong to and/or where the aircraft are from".
Obviously it's another matter whether are not it's possible for an ordinary civilian to obtain this second kind of information .
But so far as I can tell from reading the various posts, I haven't seen any reference to these sorts of fundamentally simple serious first lines of inquiry type questions / investigations being tried ?
Anyway keep your eyes to the skies because we are not alone! Not only do we have possibly chemtrials to concern ourselves with. Today we have the good old 'drip by drip' softening up media approach. As another 30 new Planets have today been reported about by our wonderful "free press"!
Toodle-oo for now.
Keep healthy breathe plenty of free to air fresh air accompanied with large dollops of free to air breath of fresh air Controversial TV on Channel 200. |
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Bryn ap Gwilym
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 20:26:12
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21st Sentry...
Read back over my posts, for I have mentioned I live in a near none commercial fly zone.
I go days without seeing one (1) plane. Then I will witness several days of chemtrail activity
Inscription on - The Washington Monument
Fy iaith, fy ngwlad, fy nghenedl Cymru — Cymru am byth (My language, my land, my nation of Wales — Wales for ever)
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21st Sentry
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 21:56:40
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Thank you Bryn ap Gwilym my Welsh cousin, (yes much ancestral Welsh Blood in 21st Sentry).
Credit to you, at least you've made inquiries on the first question. I wonder have you tried to inquire further though.
Here in the relatively sleepy Peak District we are pretty well directly under the outbound North Atlantic North American air traffic. By the time the civil airline Jets reach us from such as Heathrow they are typically many many miles up and usually only just audible . We all also about two or three miles from the inbound European air traffic going into Manchester Ringway.
And to be frank, over the years I have never noticed anything particularly untoward with the various contrails any of the Jets have left. Yes occasionally some of the contrails have been somewhat slower than normal to dissipate. However if the wind is blowing at ground level it obviously doesn't mean to say that it will be blowing similarly at a few miles up. And of course vice versa.
Toodle-oo for now.
Keep healthy breathe plenty of free to air fresh air accompanied with large dollops of free to air breath of fresh air Controversial TV on Channel 200. |
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Soul on Ice
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/10/2009 : 23:25:51
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Hello 21st Sentry,
I think I mentioned somewhere before that I'm in between airbases here but am also on the flight path. I have found various documents relevent to the trails. There was an open air agreement and a more recent agreement to divert commercial planes underneath the military flying zones. I see lots of passenger planes flying at extremely low altitude as is the new norm (as a bit of irony or a sick joke it is said that it reduces pollution!). Grey military type planes fly low after spraying and the planes that do the spraying I can't tell the difference between sometimes because my camera isn't that good when taking videos.
The planes are too low for it to be ice. 6000ft, not 30000. The figures have apparently changed now for contrail forming conditions, ranging from 20000 - 30000 but even so it makes no difference as these trails are never anywhere near that height, if they were I wouldn't be able to see them in my camera!
There isn't really a "slower than normal" rate for contrails to dissipate (normal ones stay around for anything from a couple to about 10 seconds, unless we're talking persistant contrails which = chemtrails) Huge formations of crap that hangs around for hours is a just not physically possible at this low altitude, this is not my opinion this is scientific fact! Also the wind wouldn't be what dissipates the contrails, they disappear as the gases mix naturally with the rest of the atmosphere. Only chemtrails are effected by the wind because they're they only ones with bits of crap heavy enough to stick around.
I do very much want to find out exactly which planes are doing this and where they are coming from but I will admit I'm finding it hard to know where to start, even with that done and trying my best to write a letter I still run the risk or being dismissed or ignored. Lots of people have tried to get chemtrails investigated both by writing to the mainstream papers and the MPs on the subject. I can't find the video now but there was a chap from Lincolnshire I think who had a video on some BBC "your views" type section of the website. He said when contacting his MP who presumably knew nothing of the spraying beforehand seemed interested and went as far to ask some questions, but got back to him saying basically he wasn't going to get anywhere with it.
A lot of people I have read about find they get a certain distance then when it all gets a bit higher up they hit the wall of secrecy. One of my youtube contacts has made numerous attempts to get the local paper involved, first time they spoke to him and said they would investigate, second time they said they thought there could be a story and third time they said it wasn't something their publication would be interested in talking about.
Thanks for the questions and comments and I hope that's helped you understand where I'm coming from a bit here and where I was wanting to go with my investigations!
PS If aliens live on any of those 30 new planets they'll decide not to come here because we're unappreciative little gits who ruin our planet intentionally and would probably wreck theirs too if we got a chance! I bet they could see the chemtrails above my house from there!
edit - spelling mistake, I put mades instead of makes! 
"I'm living idealistically, principle over profit
But realistically good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets" - Ras Kass |
Edited by - Soul on Ice on 20/10/2009 16:47:48 |
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