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Originally posted by johnyb

That is exactly how it happened.And whats in the paper today-news that Cheryl Cole is scheduled to appear on Jonathan Ross show in a fortnight in whats reported to be a "Princess Diana style interview." Her management wont confirm whether she'l appear or in the event she does if she'l speak about her marridge split.But of course she will do both of these things.It's an essential part of the publicity merry-go-round. As for Ashley-no takers as yet for his side of the story.Marrying him was a good career move for the then Ms.Tweedy.Posh Spice showed how far you can go with the pop star/England football player dynamic.Then Cole became a pariah after his autobiography revealed the greed that led him to engineer a move from Arsenal.Cheryl found herself married to a man despised by footie fans everywhere.Hilariously the couple had to buy the rights to a reality TV show about the early days of their marridge-Cole decided he needed to beat a hasty retreat from the spotlight and refused to let it go out.In the footage that ended up being broadcast the lack of warmth in the union was blindingly apparent.

Jordan,herself a multi-platinum recording star,is the master of manipulating the publicity machine.The way she married Alex Reid days after he won Celeb BB was so shameless you have to admire it.She knew interest would never be higher and acted accordingly.The likes of Jordan are able to milk any aspect of their lives-marridge,divorces,children,family fallouts,illnesses.Magazines will throw money at them to get the stories.

john boyd

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Originally posted by kevinphillipsbong

Angryhead & johnyb
Very well observed and this is a fascinating and revealing discussion. It was only a few weeks ago that Cheryl declared that their marriage was strong despite all the rumours, rumours circulated in the media.
Her singles have come out at an alarming rate which coincide with the alarming chain of events surrounding their alleged Split-Up! Normally singles come out every 3 months if not longer. Jordan announced the end of her relationship with P Andre on This Morning or one of those shows; it's the same plan of action Publicity means exposure means money.
Kevin

THE POWER OF NOW by Eckhart Tolle. I am loving it!

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Originally posted by blank_page

This is a great thread.

People need to open there eyes and see what their kids are watching/listening too. I myself am a huge music fan and I have over the last couple of years noticed the industry move in a certain way and be dominated by a certain group mainly the "Rocafella" gang. Which is headed by Jay Z.

Jay Z, Kanye West, Rhianna, Lady GaGa, Beyonce.. these are the main players of the game. Also acts like new up and coming Kerli, Hillary Duff etc.

If you want to find out more just type into google things like "hip hop and the occult".. or "Lady GaGa occult initiation" its very interesting stuff.

I like all music and listen to Jay Z and have recently downloaded his "blueprint 3" album. It is full of verses about the occult and hidden messeges. I am convinced that he is working with them. Look at all these artists vieos (Lady Ga Ga's Bad romance is one of the worst for occult symbolism). Once I started looking into this I cant watch a music video in the same way.

Even listening to the Jay Z album im constantly listening to every word he says and I'm telling you hes talking about political connections, 9/11, and the occult...

Its blaitent people! wake up

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blank page....

Jay-Z's latest album, 'The Blueprint 3' was released across the world on September 11th 2009. The first 'Blueprint' album was released on September 11th 2001. The CD label on his latest album has three straight red lines on it. I'm led to believe this is also an occult symbol (such as used in army ranks). One of the songs on the album is called 'Empire State of Mind'. I've gone into a little more detail about this on the 'music' thread.
The video to 'Run This Town'(from the album), which features Rihanna (there she is again!) shows Jay-Z in a black cloak with a hood over his head whilst a group of people hold burning wooden stakes in their hands. The first verse of the song makes many lyrical references to the colour black.
With more investigation into his other work, I'm sure you could start a website about Jay-Z and his so-called 'influences'.


By the way... my missus (who runs a clothes boutique and obviously knows of my theories on how the world is run) showed me a booklet today from designer Vivienne Westwood. My wife - who has started selling Westwood products in her shop - brought me to the attention of some of the items that she could buy from Westwood's wholesalers. My wife was intrigued to see the planet Saturn on many of the handbag designs. I looked at the brochure myself and saw not only the planet Saturn, but jewellrey with the Maltese cross on them. I haven't had time to look at the entire brochure, but I will. Once I have, I'll scan some of these photos and post them in this thread.

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Here's a few more from VC in regard to Jay-z & his 'bride'

Jay Z's 'Run this town'
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1948

The Occult Semi-Subliminals of Jay-Z’s “On to the Next One”
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3073


Beyonce to Sasha Fierce: Symbolic Occult Rebirth
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=604


Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2153

Question: Can Jay Z ACTUALLY sing or just always rap? I notice he has other artist do vocals & he raps around them. I think IF his albums are any good its down to good producers & the maJic of his employers. I thnk he's crap & fugly to boot! Sorry if that offends anyone.

You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter!

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Originally posted by deadpeoplestuff

well done johnyb! keeping an eye on Cheryl...hey! someone has to do it - why not you

This thread has blown me away. The posts, the stuff that's out there - this is another rabbit warren that opens into an underground cavern..Oh! (another bug boy four reference)




All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

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Originally posted by deadpeoplestuff

well done johnyb! keeping an eye on Cheryl...hey! someone has to do it - why not you

This thread has blown me away. The posts, the stuff that's out there - this is another rabbit warren that opens into an underground cavern..Oh! (another bug boy four reference)




All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

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Originally posted by deadpeoplestuff

well done johnyb! keeping an eye on Cheryl...hey! someone has to do it - why not you

This thread has blown me away. The posts, the stuff that's out there - this is another rabbit warren that opens into an underground cavern..Oh! (another bug boy four reference)






All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

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Hi DPS
Some brilliant posts on here. I don't wanna spoil the show but i thought you might like to know:

What if all this occult stuff in music and movies and all the celebrity sh*te is just another smokescreen to avoid the real issues such as loss of liberty, loss of sovereignty and the dangerous Depleted Uranium contamination all over the world; not to mention the New World Order? We are being manipulated but we "knew it all along, something has gone wrong".
Just a thought...
Kevin

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Don Arden was an interesting character-ran his operation like a criminal gang.Read a book by his bodygaurd who told a story about how Arden made the mistake of questioning a Mafia Don's sexuality in New York over a buisness deal.Don and the bodygaurd were ordered to attend an early morning meeting in a bar were it was obvious Arden was not meant to walk out of.However he grovelled and convinced the Mafiosa that allowing him to live would be very financially rewarding.Tales of his intimidation of rivals are legion.Organized crime has always had involvement in the music industry.

Of course Sharon Osbourne became a very powerfull manager herself in the Heavy Metal scene of the 80s and 90s.This is another aspect of what I would term the "Showbizz Illuminati." Alan Watt has stated that the acting profession is practically a closed shop of inter-breeding bloodlines,much like the Royals which,in some cases go back 100s and 1000s of years.Sounds far-fetched but is convenience the only reason these people marry each other and have offspring who invariably go into the buisness? Of course there will always be a place for talented individuals who have the capacity to bewitch the public to enter the profession-thats a given. Watt points out the importance of film and entertainment in shaping the culture and attitudes of the masses and how valuable those in controll regard these mediums.

The origins of the massive companies who made and continue to make huge sums from this industry are also worth attention.Ironic that EMI ,home of the Beatles with their message of peace and love etc.,stated life as arms dealers.

Tom Parker was a very shady individual.A Dutch citizen who entered the US illegally,Parker plotted every facet of Elvis Pressly's career.It was revealed by Pressly's cousin and member of the "Memphis Mafia",as his entourage were referred to,that Parker had gained acess to home movies of sexual trysts Elvis had made of himself early in his career which explained the hold he had over the star.It's speculated Parker was an intelligence asset probably controlled himself by the threat of deportation.Conspiracy theories about Elvis and his meteoric rise are rife.

john boyd

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To put The Paul is Dead rumours into perspective, watch this video of macca and wings singing Live in 1976. This is very much the real Paul of pre 1966, probably, though he looks taller?!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjTN11CnNY

Kevin

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Hi Angryhead
Yes Ram and all the associations with the occult i can't dismiss them. The artistic control of promotion and album covers is always a grey area. Peter Blake(related to William Blake) after a few failed attempts eventually came up with the cover we know for "Sgt Pepper" pepper also means "satan" or the devil. You would think being conscious of image he would take control of the artwork for the sleeve etc. "Ramifications" that's what he should have called the album. If he called it Silly Love Songs that would have played right into John, George and Ringo's hands.
Kevin

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Hi Angryhead
A great reply by you and by Lennon. I had forgotten about that. I am still wondering what Heather Mills found out about Macca that led to the divorce! Or was it just defensive tactics in the light of her previous occupation becoming knowledge? Was he circumcised? Was he sterilised? Was he a born again christian? Was he bisexual? Was he really into the occult and a mason.
It would be great to meet up with you for a pint and with several other members of the forum. The Beatles Convention held every August in Liverpool would be a good place to meet. As i am writing this i am thinking of The Third Man and Marathon Man. What i mean is to be careful who you trust. You can mingle with the crowds in Liverpool though.
Kind Regards
Kevin

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